[PearHat]

ok hey anyone who reads, i'm planning on getting a duduk asap and i want to get a high quality one, from what i see here the ones from duduk.com are high quality no doubt and theres so much posotive feedback

it's just that no offence to duduk.com i think you are running a great site offer quality products and advice!, but i don't think that the duduks offered on the site are the nicest looking and i want a really nice looking duduk whilst still being high quality

http://www.ethnicinstruments.co.uk/products.html

i stumbled across this after a lot of searching - and it looks to be a good quality product - they say its handcrafted from apricot wood, i'll forget the hand crafted part but the fact that it is apricot wood i have read is essential for the sound, and the reed has those leather strips as a high quality one should. what concerns me is the "Master Karen Hakobyan Duduk" - after hearing a lot about substandard products masquerading under these "masters" names i'm a little afraid of it.

i guess what I'm asking is can anyone give me any advice about this or even better informed advice or knowledge of this website etc.

i fully intend on purchasing any further reeds i need from duduk.com as i know i can trust this site. i know i'm a little vein for wanting something "pretty" as well as sounding great but hey xD

can anyone offer me advice?

edit - i found the audio sample on the front page and it sounds good - and a note says they import right from Armenia, but it also says "We supply high quality professional instruments made by the
Worlds Greatest Master Craftsman at an affordable price."

This post has been edited by PearHat: Jun 2 2009, 10:53 PM

[Dreamfullofzen]

ok hey anyone who reads, i'm planning on getting a duduk asap and i want to get a high quality one, from what i see here the ones from duduk.com are high quality no doubt and theres so much posotive feedback

it's just that no offence to duduk.com i think you are running a great site offer quality products and advice!, but i don't think that the duduks offered on the site are the nicest looking and i want a really nice looking duduk whilst still being high quality

http://www.ethnicinstruments.co.uk/products.html

i stumbled across this after a lot of searching - and it looks to be a good quality product - they say its handcrafted from apricot wood, i'll forget the hand crafted part but the fact that it is apricot wood i have read is essential for the sound, and the reed has those leather strips as a high quality one should. what concerns me is the "Master Karen Hakobyan Duduk" - after hearing a lot about substandard products masquerading under these "masters" names i'm a little afraid of it.

i guess what I'm asking is can anyone give me any advice about this or even better informed advice or knowledge of this website etc.

i fully intend on purchasing any further reeds i need from duduk.com as i know i can trust this site. i know i'm a little vein for wanting something "pretty" as well as sounding great but hey xD

can anyone offer me advice?

edit - i found the audio sample on the front page and it sounds good - and a note says they import right from Armenia, but it also says "We supply high quality professional instruments made by the
Worlds Greatest Master Craftsman at an affordable price."

Hi there,

I bought a Duduk from Matt last end of april, you can find some pics of my duduk here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dreamfullofzen/

The way an instrument looks is not nearly half as important as it sounds....

I read that the KH Duduks are only aged 2 years instead of 6, and that is something i am willing to believe... not only is my Duduk really light, when i polish it off with walnut oil, some of the woods color rubs off into the oil...

As for the sound clip, well... sounds clips are a notorious thing... My Duduk sounds OK, and i'm willing to believe that it doesn't sound great due to the fact that i am a beginner, but in all honesty i reckon the Reed & the Duduk itself are not jaw dropping quality as implied.

There is a video of KH making the Duduks on that website (armenianinstruments), and i believe Matt is probably acting as a european distributor, or has bought a bunch of the duduks at bulk price and is selling them for what they cost. The fact that the Duduk has KH carved into it as opposed to MKH would imply i guess that he is not a master....

I did a recording afew weeks ago (didn't record it properly), and it sounded thin. I tried another recording and doing a proper job, here it is.

http://www.dreamfullofzen.net/Music/DUDUKTEST2.mp3

I used an NT-1 mic, some compression & reverb plugins, and although i wasn't playing very well, to me the sound of the Duduk was not as rich sounding as i would have expected.... It doesn't have a rich sound, and the thing is in real life sounds much thinner then the recording... which i don't think it should....

Ultimately i am no expert on Duduks, and am not a woodwind player, so i can't give any solid advice. The KH Duduks are fine for someone like me i think, who's learning to play. That said though, i am definately getting a different reed, since i feel the reed i have is lacking expression and tone... and i'm going to get a Duduk from here to compare it to the KH and see how big of a difference there is...

Ultimately if money is not a concern, but a Duduk from both places and compare them. IF money is a concern, just wait till i get mine, i'll record something with the two and compare them...

The Duduks from Duduk.com could be bright green with yellow lines all over them... as long as they sound good, i couldn't care less...

(although i am happy that they're not bright green...lol)

Also for what it's worth, I'm sure moses could probably hook you up with a special Duduk if they have any in stock, as long as you're willing to pay the extra cash.

[PearHat]

Hi there,

I bought a Duduk from Matt last end of april, you can find some pics of my duduk here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dreamfullofzen/

The way an instrument looks is not nearly half as important as it sounds....

I read that the KH Duduks are only aged 2 years instead of 6, and that is something i am willing to believe... not only is my Duduk really light, when i polish it off with walnut oil, some of the woods color rubs off into the oil...

As for the sound clip, well... sounds clips are a notorious thing... My Duduk sounds OK, and i'm willing to believe that it doesn't sound great due to the fact that i am a beginner, but in all honesty i reckon the Reed & the Duduk itself are not jaw dropping quality as implied.

There is a video of KH making the Duduks on that website (armenianinstruments), and i believe Matt is probably acting as a european distributor, or has bought a bunch of the duduks at bulk price and is selling them for what they cost. The fact that the Duduk has KH carved into it as opposed to MKH would imply i guess that he is not a master....

I did a recording afew weeks ago (didn't record it properly), and it sounded thin. I tried another recording and doing a proper job, here it is.

http://www.dreamfullofzen.net/Music/DUDUKTEST2.mp3

I used an NT-1 mic, some compression & reverb plugins, and although i wasn't playing very well, to me the sound of the Duduk was not as rich sounding as i would have expected.... It doesn't have a rich sound, and the thing is in real life sounds much thinner then the recording... which i don't think it should....

Ultimately i am no expert on Duduks, and am not a woodwind player, so i can't give any solid advice. The KH Duduks are fine for someone like me i think, who's learning to play. That said though, i am definately getting a different reed, since i feel the reed i have is lacking expression and tone... and i'm going to get a Duduk from here to compare it to the KH and see how big of a difference there is...

Ultimately if money is not a concern, but a Duduk from both places and compare them. IF money is a concern, just wait till i get mine, i'll record something with the two and compare them...

The Duduks from Duduk.com could be bright green with yellow lines all over them... as long as they sound good, i couldn't care less...

(although i am happy that they're not bright green...lol)

Also for what it's worth, I'm sure moses could probably hook you up with a special Duduk if they have any in stock, as long as you're willing to pay the extra cash.

alright thanks =) nice recording too btw

it sounds great to me on the recording, that colour rubbing off doesn't sound good.

i realise it's ultimately about the sound hehe no need to convince me of that i'd just love to have a stunningly good looking one as well hehe. but hmm it's a tough choice, i mean it costs £125 with delivery and if im honest i can't go much beyond that with price and exchange rate doesn't tip in my favor when it comes to buying from duduk.com in dollars. i guess it would be a great help to have that comparison from you are you planning on buying a duduk.com duduk anytime soon, it's just i wanted to get one in the next couple of weeks hehe

[Duduk]

Hi there,

I bought a Duduk from Matt last end of april, you can find some pics of my duduk here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dreamfullofzen/

The way an instrument looks is not nearly half as important as it sounds....

I read that the KH Duduks are only aged 2 years instead of 6, and that is something i am willing to believe... not only is my Duduk really light, when i polish it off with walnut oil, some of the woods color rubs off into the oil...

As for the sound clip, well... sounds clips are a notorious thing... My Duduk sounds OK, and i'm willing to believe that it doesn't sound great due to the fact that i am a beginner, but in all honesty i reckon the Reed & the Duduk itself are not jaw dropping quality as implied.

There is a video of KH making the Duduks on that website (armenianinstruments), and i believe Matt is probably acting as a european distributor, or has bought a bunch of the duduks at bulk price and is selling them for what they cost. The fact that the Duduk has KH carved into it as opposed to MKH would imply i guess that he is not a master....

I did a recording afew weeks ago (didn't record it properly), and it sounded thin. I tried another recording and doing a proper job, here it is.

http://www.dreamfullofzen.net/Music/DUDUKTEST2.mp3

I used an NT-1 mic, some compression & reverb plugins, and although i wasn't playing very well, to me the sound of the Duduk was not as rich sounding as i would have expected.... It doesn't have a rich sound, and the thing is in real life sounds much thinner then the recording... which i don't think it should....

Ultimately i am no expert on Duduks, and am not a woodwind player, so i can't give any solid advice. The KH Duduks are fine for someone like me i think, who's learning to play. That said though, i am definately getting a different reed, since i feel the reed i have is lacking expression and tone... and i'm going to get a Duduk from here to compare it to the KH and see how big of a difference there is...

Ultimately if money is not a concern, but a Duduk from both places and compare them. IF money is a concern, just wait till i get mine, i'll record something with the two and compare them...

The Duduks from Duduk.com could be bright green with yellow lines all over them... as long as they sound good, i couldn't care less...

(although i am happy that they're not bright green...lol)

Also for what it's worth, I'm sure moses could probably hook you up with a special Duduk if they have any in stock, as long as you're willing to pay the extra cash.

Bright Green a ok it's an idea i'm sure to let you know wan we make one

Green Music AKA vegetarian orchestra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpfYt7vRHuY

[Dreamfullofzen]

Pearhat,

it sounds OK i think... it's lacking the richer top end that i hear from most duduks... whether that's due to the reed, the duduk itself, or the NT-1 not being a good match for the duduk i do not know....

Are you a woodwind player? or are you completely new to playing woodwinds? Personally i cannot recommend either one over the other, since both sites are run by nice people, and i cannot comment on quality of instruments which i know next to nothing about.

Budget wise, if you cannot go over 125 quid, how about getting the KH.. and whilst learning on it, save up some dough to buy a Duduk.com Duduk, and buy afew reeds too. I am definately getting a Duduk from here, and will be placing an order very soon, but I'm having it shipped to me here in Cairo Egypt, so i have no idea how long it will take to arrive... plus i'd want to play it in & and the reed(s) for awhile before recording them to be fair to the instruments makers...

As for the color rubbin off, that's expected if the wood is still moist (which if it's been aged only 2 years it will be..). It's not a big deal as long as you're gentle whilst polishing and oiling, which you should be in general.

Maybe a memeber on here has posted something with a Duduk from Duduk.com? i mean problem is i am not a seasoned woodwind player, my technique and tone are still really in the begginer catagory, so even with an amazing duduk in my hands... it won't sound half as good as if it was in the hands of a real woodwind player...

Bright Green a ok it's an idea i'm sure to let you know wan we make one

Green Music AKA vegetarian orchestra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpfYt7vRHuY

now i've seen everything!! How about a Zucchini Duduk moses?

[PearHat]

Pearhat,

it sounds OK i think... it's lacking the richer top end that i hear from most duduks... whether that's due to the reed, the duduk itself, or the NT-1 not being a good match for the duduk i do not know....

Are you a woodwind player? or are you completely new to playing woodwinds? Personally i cannot recommend either one over the other, since both sites are run by nice people, and i cannot comment on quality of instruments which i know next to nothing about.

Budget wise, if you cannot go over 125 quid, how about getting the KH.. and whilst learning on it, save up some dough to buy a Duduk.com Duduk, and buy afew reeds too. I am definately getting a Duduk from here, and will be placing an order very soon, but I'm having it shipped to me here in Cairo Egypt, so i have no idea how long it will take to arrive... plus i'd want to play it in & and the reed(s) for awhile before recording them to be fair to the instruments makers...

As for the color rubbin off, that's expected if the wood is still moist (which if it's been aged only 2 years it will be..). It's not a big deal as long as you're gentle whilst polishing and oiling, which you should be in general.

Maybe a memeber on here has posted something with a Duduk from Duduk.com? i mean problem is i am not a seasoned woodwind player, my technique and tone are still really in the begginer catagory, so even with an amazing duduk in my hands... it won't sound half as good as if it was in the hands of a real woodwind player...


now i've seen everything!! How about a Zucchini Duduk moses?

hehe, unfortunately im not a woodwind player i play the screamin' guitar haha and just about play the piano - you know in a kind of i can do it enough to write music kind of a way. I'm primarily just a writer of music and i mostly use virtual instruments to write however complicated i want but my plan in general is to get some interesting sounds into what i do and phase out my use of virtual instruments for finished mixes completely over time. it's just that a lot of the instruments i want are expensive and hard to play. but yea the only reed instrument i've played is a clarinet and that was so long ago i don't remember how to hold it or what any of the parts are called let alone how to play it xD

so overall what i want is a quality instrument and that's whats important to me it might be worth getting, i mean can you or anyone else for that matter recommend a great sounding duduk to buy that's what important to me, i can engineer the sound to hell but in the end the way i'll get the best sound is from a really great instrument.

[Duduk]

now i've seen everything!! How about a Zucchini Duduk moses?

nooo but can make on out of Armenian Yard Long Cucumber

[Dreamfullofzen]

hehe, unfortunately im not a woodwind player i play the screamin' guitar haha and just about play the piano - you know in a kind of i can do it enough to write music kind of a way. I'm primarily just a writer of music and i mostly use virtual instruments to write however complicated i want but my plan in general is to get some interesting sounds into what i do and phase out my use of virtual instruments for finished mixes completely over time. it's just that a lot of the instruments i want are expensive and hard to play. but yea the only reed instrument i've played is a clarinet and that was so long ago i don't remember how to hold it or what any of the parts are called let alone how to play it xD

so overall what i want is a quality instrument and that's whats important to me it might be worth getting, i mean can you or anyone else for that matter recommend a great sounding duduk to buy that's what important to me, i can engineer the sound to hell but in the end the way i'll get the best sound is from a really great instrument.

Nothing unfortunate about it, i've been playing guitar for 12 years myself.

I also dabbled with clarinet and found the Duduk easier to play.. albet you need to blow allot harder and and the whole tuning of the thing can be abit daunting at first.

In all honesty i haven't tried the duduks from here, the one i got from ethnic instruments is okay, but tone wise i do not think it's jaw dropping. When i compare it with other recordings of Duduks.. mine seems to lack the character and overall sound.. it's strange... Like i said it could be just me and my playing, but i dunno. I've only had it a month too, so maybe it needs more time to be played in to sound good (which is another important aspect i believe with woodwind instruments... much like guitar necks...).

Not to sound harsh, but since you're not a woodwind player, high quality vs medium quality at this point isn't an issue, since it will be a good month of practice and numb lips before you can do anything with it.. If you cannot afford the duduks from here, get one from matt, and save up for one from here. By then you'll be a better player and be able to appreciate the differences, and also be ready to buy some reeds (perhaps even a medium one if you've practiced and developed enough).

Like i said i am no expert on the matter, try asking around various forums other than this one & see the general responses, or see if you can find anyone else that has a KH duduk...

The fact that i don't see anyone owning KH duduks, or the fact that most people get Duduks from Moses would imply to me that the Duduks here are significantly better. Plus after seeing the beautiful Duduk that Moses owns, i am certain their duduks are REALLY good....

Are there no second hand stores in tin pan alley or somewhere that have Duduks? or any place that might that you could check out? have you looked on Ebay for any UK sellers that might allow you to visit them and check out the duduk?

just some ideas. Sorry i can't really help more then that to be honest.


oh actually i have one more suggestion... How about taking a summer vacation to Armenia?

nooo but can make on out of Armenian Yard Long Cucumber

would that be a Bass Duduk? or a Duduk in the Key of H?


Sorry, it's really hot here, and i like making bad jokes...

[RonsMusic76]

Hmm, I might be able to help a little with this as I know a player who uses KH and one who uses duduk.com and I know of un-enhanced videos of each.

Disclaimer first: I am not that great a player and sound can be drastically different depending on the room, the digital camera's microphones, distance from mic, etc. Not to mention the ENORMOUS difference that the skill of the player can make! That said, maybe this will help:


Geesmail is an outstanding player (and contributor to this forum and all around great guy in general) and he plays Karen Hakobyan duduk. There are several great videos of him playing in his kitchen on his YouTube channel:
Geesmaildk on YouTube

I have a couple videos (though nothing recent) of me playing on a Bb duduk from Duduk.com, this one in my little apartment garage:
Simple song I was working on


So hopefully this helps you out a little. As far as sound, in my opinion both duduk makers sound pretty good to me, though I have not been playing long enough to see the difference the aging will make in the long run (longer aged wood is often more stable against environmental factors like humidity, I think).

As far as looks, duduk.com occasionally has some with nice engraving or woodburning designs on them. Ask Movses if/when these might be available here. OR, if the sound isn't that important, you can risk (and I mean risk) one of the decorated duduk of "master Simonian" off eBay:
"Engraved Armenian Professional Duduk" on eBay
Like many others, I have not had good luck with duduk on eBay so I only mention that one with a big "buyer beware!" Having leather strips on the reed is no guarantee that it's a good or "pro" reed. You might get a playable instrument at a bargain price... or you might get a craft project in the "key of stick" to look pretty on your shelf!



Oh, and don't forget you'll get different tone depending on if you bought a soft reed, medium reed, or hard reed! Softer reeds are easier to play but usually don't have as mellow of tone as the harder reeds. I think mine is Medium.

[PearHat]

Hmm, I might be able to help a little with this as I know a player who uses KH and one who uses duduk.com and I know of un-enhanced videos of each.

Disclaimer first: I am not that great a player and sound can be drastically different depending on the room, the digital camera's microphones, distance from mic, etc. Not to mention the ENORMOUS difference that the skill of the player can make! That said, maybe this will help:
Geesmail is an outstanding player (and contributor to this forum and all around great guy in general) and he plays Karen Hakobyan duduk. There are several great videos of him playing in his kitchen on his YouTube channel:
Geesmaildk on YouTube

I have a couple videos (though nothing recent) of me playing on a Bb duduk from Duduk.com, this one in my little apartment garage:
Simple song I was working on
So hopefully this helps you out a little. As far as sound, in my opinion both duduk makers sound pretty good to me, though I have not been playing long enough to see the difference the aging will make in the long run (longer aged wood is often more stable against environmental factors like humidity, I think).

As far as looks, duduk.com occasionally has some with nice engraving or woodburning designs on them. Ask Movses if/when these might be available here. OR, if the sound isn't that important, you can risk (and I mean risk) one of the decorated duduk of "master Simonian" off eBay:
"Engraved Armenian Professional Duduk" on eBay
Like many others, I have not had good luck with duduk on eBay so I only mention that one with a big "buyer beware!" Having leather strips on the reed is no guarantee that it's a good or "pro" reed. You might get a playable instrument at a bargain price... or you might get a craft project in the "key of stick" to look pretty on your shelf!

thanks for the advice i used your video as referance on youtube already hehe i'm hoobthenoob on youtube yea i ordered a KH duduk yesterday i like the sound that dream full of zen produced on his recording and the difference isn't too drastic that i wouldn't be able to produce it to sound good so =) it's all good

yea ill get some more reeds from duduk.com at some point

"produce it to sound good" - correction - more similar to the other duduk lol. it already sounds good =) (well on zens recording anyways)

This post has been edited by PearHat: Jun 5 2009, 05:57 PM

[RonsMusic76]

thanks for the advice i used your video as referance on youtube already hehe i'm hoobthenoob on youtube yea i ordered a KH duduk yesterday i like the sound that dream full of zen produced on his recording and the difference isn't too drastic that i wouldn't be able to produce it to sound good so =) it's all good

yea ill get some more reeds from duduk.com at some point

"produce it to sound good" - correction - more similar to the other duduk lol. it already sounds good =) (well on zens recording anyways)

Ah, I remember you. Yeah, I just listened to his recording again and I actually think it sounds pretty good! Could use a little EQ boost and some bigger reverb maybe to get the fuller sound he wants but that's more just producer's preference.


This post has been edited by RonsMusic76: Jun 5 2009, 06:07 PM

[PearHat]

Ah, I remember you. Yeah, I just listened to his recording again and I actually think it sounds pretty good! Could use a little EQ boost and some bigger reverb maybe to get the fuller sound he wants but that's more just producer's preference.

yea totally, the guy Matt who runs the site seems nice i emailed him my address and he sent via special delivery no charge woo =D

[NanE]

A picture is worth a thousand words


see it your self

do i need to say more ?

This post has been edited by NanE: Jun 6 2009, 12:45 AM

[Dreamfullofzen]

Ah, I remember you. Yeah, I just listened to his recording again and I actually think it sounds pretty good! Could use a little EQ boost and some bigger reverb maybe to get the fuller sound he wants but that's more just producer's preference.

Generally i try not to go overboard with EQ'ing acoustic instruments, especially like the Duduk, for fear of removing or screwing the harmonic content that makes the instrument sound the way it should..

Since i've not really had much time recording instruments like Duduk, it's still a learning process (along with learning to play it!) to see what mics, plugins, Magic frequencies, & ambient effects make it sound true in the digital domain.

I have one or two songs on my upcoming album that i want to have Duduk on, so i'll be experimenting allot more in the next few weeks.

[topaz]

Hi, I glad you are enjoying your HK Duduk :-)

I assume this forum is for users to talk about the Armenian Duduk and not to promote or not promote different masters and resellers so I would like to thank duduk.com for supplying users a platform.

I am far to busy and non technical to manage such a forum .

thanks guys

peace

Matt Hooper
Composer/Musician

the guy Matt who runs the site seems nice i emailed him my address and he sent via special delivery no charge woo =D

This post has been edited by topaz: Jun 8 2009, 08:07 AM

[hrimnir]

Dear all from Geesmaildk / hrimnir/ Steen

Allow me to paticipate in this debat, which,I think is a little bit to much on the maker of duduks interests. I think I will turn the perspective from makers of duduks to buyers of duduks and reeds, especially us, who must rely on the internet trade. It is absolutely essential to be sure of the quality ,if one orders a duduk and reeds from the various manufactores. I expect, as a buyer, from those who offers pro duduks and reeds, that when I get the items, there should be a certain standard. The duduk should be flawless, no cracks,filled holes etc. and the fingerholes should be in proper place. As for the reeds I expect them to be tested and brought in tune with the instrument, and I think the money back qurantee should also go for both reed and duduk. As it is now nearly every seller offers money back on the duduk itself, but not the reed. As the community of duduk players from all over the world is quite small, then it will for us, who already is in close contact via mail and other forums for duduk, be quite easy to pinpoint those sellers, who are not reliable.

The next thing is, can you buy a decent instrument, and then expect to be a good player ? I know many, who thinks, that if they just buy the same brand in sitar, as Ravi Shankar or the same brand in trumpet as Miles Davis, then they will immidiatly sound like the big musicians. Well dreams are cheap. Even with a bad instrument, it is only your own work and skill, that matters. I has been wondering over some of the letters in this debat. If one only has been playing for 1 month, are you then able to tell the differense in tone quality etc. on various duduks ? It could be that I am a slow learner , compared to all the persons in this debat? I don´t think so. And even if one could choose between all the best A duduks and try them out, I think one should get a surprise, because what really matters is you, the reed and at last the duduk. And it is YOU that matters. How is your body ? Good lounges ? a stable and firm belly muscle ? Your throat ? Your capability of expanding your neck and cheeks ? Your lips ? Have you been playing reed woodwinds for long ? Have you have had any training in controlling airflow ? Sum this up for yourself. And your skills. Have had any proper training as musician ? Trained your ear to distinct between notes ? Trained your fingers capability to move fast ? If you don´t fulfill a lot of these questions, even the best duduks and reeds cannot save you. So, what can you set up as standards for yourself as a beginner, well think about it. Are you willing to practise from 15 min. to one hour or more daily ? are You willing to use a lot of time to break in a stubborn reed for month ? Well there is a lot of work waiting for a duduk player.
The reed is the second most important thing. I have a fairly big collection of bad reeds from various manufactores, and I think it is here the water divides. Out of 12 reeds, I only managed to have 2 good ones. So this was a very expensive learning process, which could have been avoided, if there was much more quality control with the makers. If a reed blown by itself should match a piano C , then no reed shouldbe allowed to leave the manufactor if it did not meet this simple test. Out of the twelve reeds I have, some hits G,H, Bb, C# and even an E. This is not at all good enough. And I can tell you, that the reeds came from some of the sellers, who claims they sell pro reeds, tested and tried out before shipment. I think, that the sellers of pro duduks and reeds, should take a firm grip of this buisness and take those makers out of the market. Or, if this is not possible, send 10- 12 reeds to the costumers for the price of one, if this is the average standard of the manufactores,that only 2 out of 10-12 is good.
best regards
Geesmaildk/hrimnir/steen

[Dreamfullofzen]

I agree.

I mentioned several times in my posts that i haven't been playing long, and am no expert in regards to Duduks.

As you stated, the tone of the instrument is down to the player mostly. I've been playing guitar for 12 years, and this is very true, when a student of mine hands me their guitar... the tone changes so drastically, most of them get a shock.. because they think i sound good because of my custom guitar... and then when i pick up their guitar.. i sound more or less the same...

Naturally in 1 month, i am not going to sound like someone who's been playing for 10 years.


Ultimately aswell that with time and playing, i know the sound of my reeds and duduk will get better, so it's all good .

[hrimnir]

Dear Dreamfullofzen

My remarks was not aimed at you personally, but was a general remark. On my videoes on You tube you can follow my development with the duduk playing over 1 year, as I keep them as a diary, and maybe they could be of some inspiration to other beginners as you and myself. I have been playing all saxophones on a semiprofessional scale for over 30 years, and I thought when I bought my first duduk, that playing this instrument would be a piece of cake. Surprise,surprise, I have never ever been so hard working with other woodwind instruments, as the duduk. It is only within a few months, I think the instruments are unfolding their inner soul or I am slowly beginnig to take control over the duduk, instead of the duduk controlling me.But to have it sound, like the armenians play it, there is a long way to go, but I am working on it, so maybe in 15 years, in an elderly home, I can play for the nurses around me
Best regards
Steen/himnir/geesmaildk

[Dreamfullofzen]

Dear Dreamfullofzen

My remarks was not aimed at you personally, but was a general remark. On my videoes on You tube you can follow my development with the duduk playing over 1 year, as I keep them as a diary, and maybe they could be of some inspiration to other beginners as you and myself. I have been playing all saxophones on a semiprofessional scale for over 30 years, and I thought when I bought my first duduk, that playing this instrument would be a piece of cake. Surprise,surprise, I have never ever been so hard working with other woodwind instruments, as the duduk. It is only within a few months, I think the instruments are unfolding their inner soul or I am slowly beginnig to take control over the duduk, instead of the duduk controlling me.But to have it sound, like the armenians play it, there is a long way to go, but I am working on it, so maybe in 15 years, in an elderly home, I can play for the nurses around me
Best regards
Steen/himnir/geesmaildk

Hi Steen,

No worries, i know the remarks were not aimed at me... i was just agreeing with you as i stated similar remarks in my posts.


I agree also, in the one month i've been playing, i feel a connection happening with the instrument, in terms of playing and control, it's an interesting process how you develop a feel for it...

As for playing it the way armenians do... well, i do not think i could, since that would mean practicing ALLOT, and since the guitar is my main instrument, i could not do that i think...

I'll just be happy to learn to play and compose with it. Maybe learn afew of the middle eastern maqams on it (i've been working on Hijaz at the moment).

[Dreamfullofzen]

how's the duduk pearhat?